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@ 2006-08-23 09:12:00
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Entry tags:american obesity association, eating disorders, eating patterns, food, gender differences, gender stereotypes, housekeeping, hygiene, ohio state university, scripps survey research center, weight

The five second rule
An Ohio University poll (2006) examined behavioral differences between 1,010 men and women. One reported difference: "60 percent of male respondents said they would eat food that had fallen on the floor while less than half the women surveyed said they would do so."

While the actual meaning of the results is a matter of debate, it does call into question the differences between the eating habits of men and women. According to the American Obesity Association, while men are more likely to be overweight than women, women are more likely to be obese or severely obese than men. In addition, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services states that 90% of people with eating disorders are women.

Can the female fastidiousness reported by the Ohio University poll shed any light on these differences? Are women more concerned with or aware of what they eat? Reporting errors seem like a more likely culprit. It seems reasonable to assume that (despite efforts to answer honestly) both men and women are likely to respond that their behavior conforms to their idealized norm of behavior.



In my own experience, I have never found women to be tidier than men, but I have found both genders will repeat this stereotype over and over. I can't count how many times I've seen people walk into a messy apartment and remark "you can tell that guys live here," but walking into an apartment in a similar state inhabited by women, no remarks are made. Certainly the stereotype makes any comment on housekeeping a greater attack on a woman than on a man; you are not only calling into question her hygiene, but her worth as a woman as well. My own level of squalor has remained fairly constant throughout my transition. I have never been a good housekeeper. However, in terms of social pressures, it is actually my identity as a queer man that has made me feel most inadequate in how I keep my home. I constantly find myself making gender-stereotyped excuses -- saying that because I am bisexual, I am not required to live up to the "gay" standard. The degree to which I buy into this stereotype puzzles and intrigues me.



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note to self
[info]dan4th
2006-08-24 03:43 pm UTC (link)
http://community.livejournal.com/gender_roles/18149.html

check for more feedback.

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[info]coderlemming
2006-09-05 05:27 pm UTC (link)
Hi, I'm here from [info]androgyny. This entry caught my eye, and I just want to pretend to be a statistician for a moment...

So 60 percent of males will eat food that had fallen on the floor, while "less than half the women" would. A phrasing like "less than half" probably means "48%", and they just phrased it that way to make it sound more interesting than it really is. A little more light is shed on the actual percentage by the way the other article reported the same poll:

The study found 60 percent of men admit they've ''eaten food that fell on the floor without washing it again,'' while more than half of the women deny they've ever violated the rules of culinary cleanliness.

So in this one, they say that "more than half of the women" would NOT eat food that had fallen on the floor (presuming that's what's meant by "violated the rules of culinary cleanliness"). Again they're not reporting the real stat, and again they're making it sound more sensationalist... but this time, with the reverse connotation. I think that means that we can assume that 48% or 49% is a pretty good guess. Anything much more deviant from half, and we would see some actual numbers in the news articles.

Now, here's where I'm fuzzy on the math, but I think that a difference between 60% of men and 48% of women isn't all that significant, statistically speaking.

While we're at it, what percentage of male and female readers of this blog would jump in here and be all mathy? ;)

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[info]differenceblog
2006-09-05 05:30 pm UTC (link)
In a sample this large (over a thousand) I think a difference of 10-12% is still significant, but I'd have to go look it up in my stats textbook to be sure. But yes, the reporting generally does oversensationalize ... well, everything.

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[info]coderlemming
2006-09-05 06:26 pm UTC (link)
Well, alright, maybe so... but I guess what I feel is that those numbers aren't drastic enough to draw any overarching conclusions about anything else BUT the fact that 10-12% more men than women would eat food off the floor.

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[info]differenceblog
2006-09-05 06:31 pm UTC (link)
I think the interpretation I suggest above is even narrower -- that 10-12% more men than women remember and admit to eating food off of the floor.

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[info]coderlemming
2006-09-05 06:31 pm UTC (link)
Good point!

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[info]coderlemming
2006-09-05 06:36 pm UTC (link)
...and I hope I didn't come across wrong here, I'm not challenging your interpretation of this, but the articles' interpretations of this one study.

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[info]differenceblog
2006-09-05 06:47 pm UTC (link)
Oh no, you didn't come across wrong at all.

Since I normally cite journal articles and this piece was a news article, I was holding the journalists to different standards than I normally apply to "scientists" -- but I didn't realize until now that I had never made it clear in the original piece that these were non-scientific interpretations.

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[info]coderlemming
2006-09-05 07:59 pm UTC (link)
The thing is, when journalists try to cite statistics like that to make a point, they're trying to sound like scientists, so that's why I think it's fair to hold a scientific candle to what they say. They want to make us believe that statistics is on their side in order to sway us to their cause, but since they're not actually scientists, they seem to try to get away with being... somewhat less than rigorous. All of the advantages of backing their opinions with Science, none of the pesky disadvantages like having to actually prove anything.

It's interesting to see how people read what they want to read into scientific results in order to "prove" what they already believe about gender differences. Also, like the last sentence in your post, it's interesting to think about how test subjects try to conform to gender stereotypes. It seems like we can learn just as much by looking at what kinds of studies were done on the differences between genders, how the studies were carried out, and what kind of spin reporters put on them, than we can from the actual data and scientific conclusions themselves. Ah, psychology ;)

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